| 07 Oct | A Peek Into The Big LeaguesPosted by PokerBarney on 1:00PM, 7th Oct 2006Permalink |  Send to a friend |  RSS feed |
I've always wondered how much the big guys (Gus Hansen, Mike Matusow, Phil Ivey, John Juanda etc) were making (or losing!) online. Now it seems, we have a small insight into their bankrolls.
David Benyamine has a blog, although I'm not sure if it's really him or not. On the blog, he posts some rather interesting stats.
Big Earners
For example, he has lists of big earners on Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet, which I'll repeat here (for more stats on Omaha games and for Ultimate Bet, visit David's blog):
FullTiltPoker Limit Texas hold'em Name Balance Hands serefecheers, +$384k, 8427 TexasLimitKing, +$360k, 10,559 John D'Agostino, +$208k, 22,245 eastsideslim, +$169k, 4392 reztes757, +$131k, 15,788 Skywalker1709, -$295k, 5057 mrnutz (Thomas Keller), -$199k, 2500 David Oppenheim, -$146k, 1810 No-limit Texas hold'em Name Balance Hands sbrugby, +$348k, 26,948 dsindy, +$271k, 20,271 wuddacooler, +$196k, 11,877 Prahlad Friedman, +$182k, 15,137 Patrik Antonius, +$177k, 154 Mike Matusow, -$272k, 36,693 possibly Tuan Le, -$270k, 1148 ballsrider, -$173k, 225
What strikes me is not so much the amount they're winning, but their win rate per hand. The limit players vary more ($45, $34, $9, $38 and $8) over the no-limit players, who are roughly even ($12, $13, $16, $12), with the exception of Patrik Antonius who has an astounding rate of $1149 per hand! Still, he did only play 154 hands, so it doesn't really count as a sensible measurement.
Limit appears to be much more profitable per hand, with an average over these players of $26 compared to the no-limit average of $13 (not taking Patrik into account, or any of the losing players). Of course, the sample size is by no means large enough to put any weight behind these numbers. It is interesting though.. I'd always seen NLHE as the way forward - but after discussing FL on a few blogs, and now seeing this... I'm changing my mind.
The other thing that strikes me is this: if they're losing or winning that much, how big must the bankroll be!?
Bigger than I can comprehend, that's for sure.
The Pros
I don't want to copy too much from David's blog, but check out these pitures (click to make them larger in a new window):
David's Omaha stats, over 10 days.
Top 5 Omaha winners on Full Tilt, over 10 days.
Wow. There really IS money in poker! I wonder what these stats will look like in a few months.. thanks to the US government.
Perhaps like this? The pros on Full Tilt over 10 days. Just goes to show, we all have losing streaks now and then!
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